Scenario one: A 9 year old girl is kidnapped by a gang in a South American country. A member of the gang is captured by the police, and believed to know the whereabouts of the girl. The only possible way to make him talk is by torture, and if he talks, the police will probably save the girl’s life. In this case, torture would save someone’s life, and the member of the gang is hardly innocent.  Besides, it would be an equal level – a life for a life, so to speak, so surely torturing the gang member would be okay.

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